Square Formation Feature

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (aria) — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:39:09 GMT

upon impact the square either brakes (which means all the infantry should route after a very short fight) or it keeps its cohesion in which case the cavalry unit has to regroup and charge again
i remember a similar conversation in another topic, horses didn`t run over and kill the infantry, if the infantry formation remained tight enough, the horse would do all it could to turn around and change direction before hitting the square
and a cavalry charge could be stopped by one volley...

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (Sitisin) — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:26:51 GMT

i always remember cav morale being plenty high so i cant really say anything. and i havent heard of morale in general being discussed so.......

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (Doosh Bag Dan) — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:06:40 GMT

the thing im worried about this square idea is cavalrys moral
in this time period cavalry units knew their casualties would be high, the turks didnt thats how nepolion did so well (##*# spelling lol)
in past games this wasnt the case cos after a close volly or 2 the cavalry would break (not unheard of in real life but rare)
i would like to try my cavalry against squares if i was forced 2 without them legging it after one volley
any clue if cav moral has been improved?

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (WellingtonsBoot) — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:27:15 GMT

What I want to know is this;

Will troops get an anti-cav advantage for their frontage. Cav will not charge home on a solid frontage esp. with bayonets. The advantage of square is to deny the flanks and rear to cavalry washing around the frontage. Cant remember, it might have been Blenheim where british troops broke 20 odd squadrons of french cav while still in line (they couldn't be flanked due to terrain).

Also will other anti-cav tactics be included? Battalion...

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (WellingtonsBoot) — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:21:30 GMT

reload times varied a lot depending on troop quality. British troops generally fired 3 volleys per minute, while less well trained troops could take a minute to reload. The comment above about horses falling into squares is not as fanciful as it sounds. There are only two known examples of squares being broken by cavalry unsupported by artillery or infantry, one of them was in the rain (wet powder) and the other was due to a dead horse breaking the formation. BTW artillery was placed at...

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (kingbobnjoe) — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:41:24 GMT

I plan to skewer some cavalry like Napoleon in the Battle of the Pyramids with this!

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (JonhMan) — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:31:04 GMT

Sounds very cool. I'd like to try to recreate Waterloo with this.

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (Warclaw) — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:16:36 GMT

In this article it mentions a reload time of up to a minute. For me this is really exciting because it adds a lot of realism to the game. (Not to mention this'll probably be easily modded to an American Civil War scenario too!) Is this accurate? I would expect the volley time to be about 30-40 seconds under good conditions and like they said in the article, a minute under stressed conditions.

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (osros) — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:28:49 GMT

I been searching online for Square formations and came across very interesting drawings and paintings of the time. There where pretty impressive squares made of various sizes, their is one that looks like the whole army was formed in a square with all the support wagons and such inside the square. I also found how squares are formed and that it took more than one unit to create a square. I hope in game we can create squares by selecting one unit or mutilple units to make any size square we need.

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (killerrabbit) — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:52:47 GMT

i hope you can place arty in the circle

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (osros) — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:35:22 GMT

aria wrote:
that's not any good a units in a square gain Bonus over cavalry but not in lines
when a square is formed if its big enough it will have an empty area in the middle, what if you order your artillery to march in the middle (that will probably disorganize the square and increase its chance of being broken)
(EDIT: i also heard they put there artillery on the corners not the middles)
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Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (Hamilkar) — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:41:36 GMT

I just read from somewhere that the only type of cavalry that could hope of doing any (although not very much) melee damage to an infantry square would be the lancers. The reason, the lance is much longer than a bayonet attached to a musket and the infantry would need to break formation in order to charge the lancers...

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (aria) — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:56:15 GMT

that's not any good a units in a square gain Bonus over cavalry but not in lines
when a square is formed if its big enough it will have an empty area in the middle, what if you order your artillery to march in the middle (that will probably disorganize the square and increase its chance of being broken)
(EDIT: i also heard they put there artillery on the corners not the middles)

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (shireknight) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:16:06 GMT

osros wrote:

I think I saw a movie once that in a desperate situation the Infantry formed a square around their cannon. I guess to defend from Calvary as well as protect the cannon. The infantry was firing, the cannon was firing looked very cool. I was wondering how realistic was that and if implemented in the game.

Add my vote for a screenshot!

Even if you can't officially form an infantry...

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (sirandrew1) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:51:13 GMT

Four Feathers? Good movie but i don't know if thats the one you are talking about.

Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (killerrabbit) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:00:36 GMT

i like the techno ideas!

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feeds@yuku.com (Biggun) — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:21:41 GMT

This technology will open up many strategies for me to use on my enemies!
The BigGun approves!

Re: Square Formation Feature

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Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (jime456) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:07:40 GMT

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Re: Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (osros) — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:40:55 GMT

I think I saw a movie once that in a desperate situation the Infantry formed a square around their cannon. I guess to defend from Calvary as well as protect the cannon. The infantry was firing, the cannon was firing looked very cool. I was wondering how realistic was that and if implemented in the game.

Add my vote for a screenshot!

Square Formation Feature

feeds@yuku.com (SenseiTW) — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:50:23 GMT

Hi guys,

I've just posted up a new feature on Square Formations in Empire: Total War.

Thanks,

Mark O'Connell
(aka SenseiTW)