Retrofit Mod 1.0 Released

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aftermath	praise for retrofit	#181	[url]	[-]
Posts: 41 05/06/08 03:00:54	after playing several campaigns on Vanilla VH VH and finding them a walkover in the later stages..after about turn 100, I decided to download Retrofit and Grand unit add on. Now I'm on turn 350 and struggling. The Muslims have a Jehad against me including about 30 stacks of Mongols and the Timurids. After accidentally not lifting a siege at Papal request I was excommunicated and a Crusade launched against me. My armies are so big trying to defend myself ..about 50,000 per turn, that I'm in the red. I gave the Pope 1000 a turn for 10 turns did no good. The Pope lived to 65 and was replaced by an English pope who hates my guts, despite me having more cardinals in the vote??. Im roleplaying the game as chivalrously as I can..no sacking or exterminations..only assassinate assassins.no declaring war on christians etc. This retrofit is bloody marvelous...thankyou
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TerryV6	major differences between Retrofit and LTC Gold?	#182	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7 05/25/08 06:34:10	Are there major differences between Retrofit and LTC Gold?
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yakaspat		#183	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4424 05/25/08 07:00:42 Commodore	I've never understood why people ask that sort of question, didn't you read the information about both mods before asking? But yes, there are major changes. Retrofit Mod is basically just an "unofficial patch" for the Grand Campaign, bringing it up to date (retrofitting) with Kingdoms. LTC is a major mod project that changes many aspects of the game, removes the Grand Campaign, and introduces new campaigns.
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TerryV6		#184	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7 05/25/08 14:40:55	I'm sorry Yakaspat, I am an older guy overwhelmed by all the info that flows thru the net on this game and all of the previous TW games, which I own. I was playing LTC gold and saw the reference to retrofit and what I saw in a post was the AI inprovement in both and the Kingdom feature addons that were now available in Retrofit. When you have little time to do the research, sometimes it helps to ask a "stupid" question in one place and have it answered, which you did. I am actually playing both mods now, though I only get about an hour a day to do this. I see some people referring to finishing multiple numbers of campaigns and wonder where they find the time. I never managed to play all of the factions in Rome, before MTW2 came out... I have never played an historical battle in any of the games.. So, sorry to have perturbed you by asking, but you did answer.. Thanks.. Terry
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yakaspat		#185	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4424 05/25/08 14:44:11 Commodore	No problem Terry, I hope you are able to find more time and research sometimes. Good luck with your campaigns. :-)
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yankeepyrate	Retrofit Mod -- "Wrong Disc"?	#186	[url]	[-]
Posts: 39 05/27/08 12:59:18	Just purchased the Kingdoms Gold box from Best Buy, installed, updated with latest patch and came here to get the Retrofit Mod. I installed it, but when I try to launch it tells me I have the "wrong disc" inserted, regardless which of the two cd's I put in. (MTW2, or Kingdoms). Is the Retrofit Mod not compatible with Kingdoms 1.5? I did notice that the discs do not install MTW and MTW:Kingdoms, but instead it breaks it down into the separate Kingdoms campaigns on install. So now I have separate launchers for Americas, Crusades, Brittania, etc. I double checked, and I do seem to have the correct patch installed, it's the US Kingdoms Gold version 1.5. Anyone else have this issue? Thanks for any advice.
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yakaspat		#187	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4424 05/27/08 14:36:15 Commodore	The Retrofit is definately compatible with the 1.5 Kingdoms patch, but, I'm not sure about the Gold Edition....it should work though I think. BTW, it is normal to have the different desktop icons for all the campaigns. Make sure you have the Kingdoms disk in the drive and double click the Retrofit Mod desktop icon to launch it.
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yankeepyrate	Retrofit Mod - "Wrong Disc"?	#188	[url]	[-]
Posts: 39 05/27/08 15:33:26	*** never mind, it suddenly started working. No explanation as to why, but I'm not complaining! Last Edited By: yankeepyrate 05/30/08 09:52:23. Edited 2 times.
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Alex9337		#189	[url]	[-]
Posts: 138 06/15/08 09:45:48	With respect to the Grand Unit Add On, I have noticed that when I acquire a Hospitaller Headquarters I am able to recruit the Marshall of the Templars, but not the Marshall of the Hospitallers. Strange.
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Rolandp		#190	[url]	[-]
Posts: 124 06/16/08 05:59:20	excellent mod, just one question: how can i add my own music to retrofit mod? the same way as to normal unmod medieval? any info is most welcome
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yakaspat		#191	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4424 06/16/08 06:58:14 Commodore	Alex9337 wrote: With respect to the Grand Unit Add On, I have noticed that when I acquire a Hospitaller Headquarters I am able to recruit the Marshall of the Templars, but not the Marshall of the Hospitallers. Strange. That is strange, considering it is impossible! Here is the Hospitaller HQ data entry: st_johns_hq requires factions { england, france, scotland, denmark, hungary, poland, papal_states, milan, sicily, venice, } { convert_to 2 capability { recruit_pool "Knights Hospitaller" 1 0.7 6 2 requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, } recruit_pool "Hospitaller Sergeant" 1 0.5 4 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, } recruit_pool "Hospitaller Gunner" 1 0.5 3 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, } and event_counter gunpowder_discovered 1 recruit_pool "Hospitaller Crossbowmen" 1 0.5 3 0 requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, } recruit_pool "Marshall of the Hospitallers" 1 0.1 1 2 requires factions { england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary, } population_health_bonus bonus 3 } material stone construction 1 cost 3000 settlement_min large_city upgrades { } Are you sure you have the Grand Unit Addon and not the old Madrono's Unit Addon Mod? I remember there was a similar problem with that mod. Do you have the latest version of the GUAM, version 6.0? Perhaps you are playing with an older, bugged version? Do you have a screenshot of the Hospitaller HQ building Templar Marshalls? Please post your response in the Grand Unit Addon Mod thread and not in Unspoken Knight's thread.
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B5Draal		#192	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1160 07/03/08 04:36:55 Post Captain	I have a question though on setting up the hotseat game for retrofit 1.0. I have an order of turns I would like the factions to be played, but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to implement it. When selecting factions, it doesn't matter which order I select the factions, the turn order is always the same order as to which the faction symbols appear in the setup screen. How do I set up the campaign so that I can dictate which order the factions are played? Edit: Post 1000! Last Edited By: B5Draal 07/03/08 08:12:02. Edited 1 time.
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Unspoken Knight		#193	[url]	[-]
Posts: 56 07/03/08 18:44:11	I can't remember exactly, but the turn order is determined by either the order of factions in descr_strat.txt or the order of factions in descr_sm_factions.txt.
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yakaspat		#194	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4424 07/04/08 05:23:38 Commodore	I think it is descr_sm_factions, but I can't remember either. Does it really matter, though?
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B5Draal		#195	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1160 07/05/08 18:44:12 Post Captain	It does make a difference especially when allied nations are mounting an offensive campaign. If an ally wants to move in concert with his ally, it makes a difference if an enemy faction can make a move in between the two allied nations. For example, if say France moved to siege a Spanish city, Spain will have a much harder time breaking the siege if say England, a hypothetical ally of France, is also given the opportunity to send his army to also siege the same Spanish city. If Spain's turn is right after France's, then Spain only has to fight a single army, not both France and England because England hasn't had the opportunity to move it's army to assist in the siege. I tried messing with both the descr_sm_factions.txt and descr_strat.txt. no dice. As a side note, when switch just the order in which the info inthe descr_sm_factions.txt file, the only difference ingame was that the faction specific agent/character voice sounds were switched. I have English speaking French and the French speaking with English accents. yeesh.
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B5Draal		#196	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1160 07/12/08 03:38:19 Post Captain	Unspoken Knight wrote: I can't remember exactly, but the turn order is determined by either the order of factions in descr_strat.txt or the order of factions in descr_sm_factions.txt. It was the descr_strat.txt. I didn't realize I had to copy and paste entire sections and move them around. hope I didn't screw anything else up like give France a Russian prince. Ty.
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Joker II		#197	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2867 07/30/08 16:34:04 Taisho	Downloaded it yesterday, played for the first time this evening, must say, I'm loving it, question though, could it be that the AI is a bit tougher ? Got my back side kicked tonight by the French, they also went on from one siege to the next in the following turn.
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Tredior		#198	[url]	[-]
Posts: 109 08/12/08 08:37:13	Does this mod or the grand unit addon have better battle map AI?
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SSJPabs		#199	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1637 08/25/08 22:58:16 Post Captain	They both use the Kingdoms AI tweaks from what I understand.
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Alxaro		#200	[url]	[-]
Posts: 33 10/01/08 11:14:33	I have some questions for people who played this mod. How's the Mongols and Timurids? Do they go on a crazy rampage with the only possible way to stop it being me? I really hope so! Edit: post nr. 200 in this thread! :) Last Edited By: Alxaro 10/01/08 11:45:04. Edited 1 time.
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