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Oct 19 07 4:38 PM
Oct 19 07 5:51 PM
Russia was pushing the enemy back, but wasn't the main cause for the end of the war.
Sure, Russia could have won on it's own, but not without losing most of its population.
Bombings, by USA and UK, played a HUGE role.
The morale of the citizens was at an all low and supplies were being destroyed.
Of course, the Rhine was eventually crossed and they pushed on to the Elbe River. We should have taken all of Germany, but no... :(
Oct 19 07 6:49 PM
Oct 19 07 10:44 PM
I would like to chat with you seagull about the WW1 and 2 matters lol.
Oct 19 07 11:05 PM
Oct 22 07 5:57 AM
Oct 22 07 9:26 AM
I would say that given the Constitution to an unorthidox cpt and the Victory to a highly trained Admiral of Briton my money would be on the rogue because he
thinks outside the box and will do different things where the Admiral would follow the book.
Oct 23 07 5:55 AM
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Oct 23 07 10:51 AM
The most beatiful ship ever built was the Spanish Ship "Santísima Trinidad". The only 4 deck ship of the line built ever, with 140 cannons. Fought
like a devil in Trafalgar, sank two British ships and made a third surrender, before giving in with 700 dead an 100 injured (out of a total crew of 1025).
Towed by the British after surrendering, it sunk near Cadiz, on its way to England.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad English Version
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad_(nav%C3%ADo) Spanish Version
Its funny to see the differences betwen the versions!
No British ships were sunk by the enemy in the battle of Trafalgar
Oct 24 07 12:07 PM
Oct 24 07 12:16 PM
Oct 24 07 12:23 PM
Ships of the line must be the most beautiful vessels ever created.
I really hope CA gets the animations right.
I disagree. They're just floating wooden fortresses jampacked with crew and cannon.
I would prefer a frigate or a sloop if I was a captain and had a choice. Much more freedom, reconnoitering for the mainfleet or making commando raids against
enemy ports and (merchant) shipping.
Oct 29 07 11:37 AM
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Oct 30 07 2:51 AM
Oct 30 07 3:01 AM
Oct 30 07 4:24 AM
Cn Iulius Flamininus wrote:
Just like land battles combined naval forces will get you better results.
frigates can outmanoeuvre and sail closer to the wind than a first rate, if sailed well.
But in a shooting match, the first rate has an edge in the size and the number of its guns as well as thickness of hull (Constitution has a 7 inch thick
hull, Victory 24 inch thick hull).
As long as the frigate doesn't get tagged by the 32lb long guns or the 68lb Carronades of the first rate, its got a chance, if it can keep astern.
If a frigate does end up in sustained range of a broadside from a first rate, then a frigate is likely to be in severe trouble if not turned in to a
It's like the different unit types on land, they all have a stone-paper-scissors element to them or their use. It's the tactics, and how they are
used in combination with the ships, that defines the results of a naval battle.
Another thing to remember in these "what if"comparisons is that USS Constitution was built about 40 years after Victory. Ship build techniques had
moved on a lot.
I guess (analogy) (if you played BS:M) it would be sort of like battleships owning other ships, but easily dieing from air. Destroyers easily owning air
and subs. Subs can own CA and BB and CL. BB is only available on some and have no torps. CL have torps. CA has 1 or 2 torps, guns are bigger, little aa.
CV's are able to own everything that cannot use AA well....
Subs and Air>CA, BB, and some CL>DD>Subs and air>repeat
So, it is something like that? (except total warized and historized.)
Oct 30 07 5:41 AM
If they do it up properly (to look like it did) it would be cool. My great-great-grandfather was the last captain of the Victory, so that would be
particularly good for me.
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