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Maluka9286 |
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In a recent game I got a continuous series of Inquisitions in Novgorood. What is happening, How does it affect my economy and production, and how can I put an
end to it?
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Zathernon |
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Posts: 138 11/23/07 02:11:25 |
Novgorod does seem to get more than it's fair share of Inquisitions. The best way to deal with it is to build a Tavern.
Then try to get the Inquisitor drunk. Actually after building the Tavern, buy an assassin or two and have some fun. Now how does one shut off these "shortcuts"? (Pressing shortcut a second time will move the caret out of the inserted bbcode.) oh, i get it now, nevermind.
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sleepingocelot |
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It is best not leave your own Inquisitors sitting on your territory for long, they will get twitchy and start building fires. Keep them in enemy territory.
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sharpshooter |
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Maluka, if you find a way of making inquisitions stop, let us know. Otherwise, I haven't noticed any adverse effects in the province - if anyone has
I'd be interested.
The first thing is protecting your generals - send in a bishop - that lessens the chance of success for the inquisitor. Maybe Cardinals help too. I wonder if spies or assassins help as well - in some circumstances my high level inquisitor gets zero chance on an untitled general, alone a province, with a piety of 0. There's nothing visible to explain this, and a few provinces away the inquisitor has a 30% chance at a prince. The next thing about protecting generals is that putting them with the king, or bringing the king to the province should save them. The real question is - who is sending inquisitors to your province, and why? Is it a rival? Is it the Pope? In Novgorod, maybe you're not converting those orthodox people who the Pope thinks are mistaken at best, and monophysite heretics at worst. Maybe you should build a church, or a monastery. I'm also curious about how to start an inquisition deliberately in my own province. I never seem able to do it - even when heresy soars. So, I wonder if a home inquisition is started by the Pope - if its a message. He certainly seems to like inquisitions - and often gives you 1000 florins the turn after a successful one early in the game. More questions, but this is something I'm interested in. Anyone else know anything? |
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sleepingocelot |
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I use my inquisitors as assassins who don't die if they fail. Covert operatives taking out generals of a neutral or soon to be ex-ally without starting a
war I am not ready for yet. Sharpshooter's commentary on bishops and emissaries has me thinking there may be other uses for them as well. Best response to
an inquisitor sent to harass you is swarms of assassins.
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sharpshooter |
Inquistions, assassins and the pope | #5 | ||
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This has got me thinking about inquisitions in my territories, and I'm getting surer that the Pope starts them to show what he thinks of me.
Maybe Maluka will edit his first post, and put the search tage Inquisitors into it? Just a thought.
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sleepingocelot |
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I started a new game as the English specifically to test out Sharpshooters comments on the use of agents. I ran off an inquisitor who was killing generals in
Wessex by bringing up two bishops. The inquisitor moved to Flanders on the next turn, I moved the bishops to follow, then he moved to Friesland (HRE territory)
and out of my hair. Score one for Sharpshooter!
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sharpshooter |
Try your own people | #7 | ||
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Heh ocelot - that's a quick result. The agents game gets more and more complicated as the game goes on, of course.
One thing about inquisitors - I power them up by picking on my lowest piety units to begin with. You can get them a few stars this way, and again, the Pope seems to like it. Did you read the post on alliances? I don't like it now - gonna change it I think - but maybe take this into account when you're playing. I'm interested in other people's experiences. |
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sleepingocelot |
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Are you saying that you target your own unit leaders with inquisitors to power them up?
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Danilonius |
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Well, what do you define as leaders?
I'm guessing he is targeting some insignificant peasant leading a bunch of even more insignificant peasants, rather than his prime generals, princes or the king himself. |
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sharpshooter |
Powering up inquisitors | #10 | ||
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Yes, I try peasants with piety of 0 or 1, all alone somewhere, minding their own business. This is a good way to get Inquisitors started, and I got the idea
from seeing other factions do the same. As I said - I think the Pope likes it.
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Danilonius |
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And if the atheist trait is revealed, that is -8 piety iirc.
Hurts a bit, I must say... |
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highlanddave |
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I have always heard secret atheists love sailing into uncharted seas, hahahahahahaha! bye bye
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Duke of Earl |
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I also power up Inquisitors on my own low-level units.
I always do this in a provence in which I want to increase the zeal, to aid in producing high piety gubanatorial candidates. The best units to burn are depleted or obsolete/redundant mercinary units, as they generally have low piety, and therefore light up like roman candles.
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sharpshooter |
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Seems to cause new trainees to rocket up the piety ladder too ... suddenly they're all coming out with 4, 5, 6 piety etc.
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Duke of Earl |
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As far as the burning the populace thing, that's just what they do if they don't have other tasks at hand. Leave them anywhere Catholic and they'll
start toasting people, I find.
I don't think the Pope is necessarrilly trying to tell you something, sharpshooter, it's just where his Inquie happened to be between tasks, and he decided to roast some folks for fun. Maybe I'm wrong. But maybe I'm not. Dunno. |
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Danilonius |
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It appears to me that inquisitors will start burning people if left to themselves in a Catholic province.
However, there is of course the possibility of the Pope deliberately leaving them in certain areas to give a message. I guess this is the question; is it deliberate from the cranky, old man, or is it purely coincidental? |
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Cloclo261 |
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And what are the consequences of an Inquisitor in a muslim province? I noticed some wandering along, for what purpose?
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Duke of Earl |
On their way to somewhere else or...? | #18 | ||
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Maybe they were lost?
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Paul02721 |
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One of the best way I found to sharpen inquisitors is to use them on a depleted Muslim mercenary unit that I have. Their chance of success is much better
because they are not Catholic.
If I use them on a peasant unit to sharpen an inquisitor and the inquisitor is successful I recheck the stats of the peasants before sicking the inquisitor on them again. Sometimes the new commander ends up becoming really good governor material. Usually though they are worse. Paul |
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