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Okay I may be stupid or something but I can't find anything in these topics or in google regarding service pack 3. Did Service Pack 3 basically kill Shogun and Medieval Total War? When I had Service Pack 2 I could at least run and play the game, buggy of course but at least they actually ran. Now though all I get when I click the exe is a black screen, thence I must ctrl alt delete. Any direction on where to go, any advice any recommendations or anything about this would be helpful. Again it only happened after I installed Service Pack 3. Anyone else have an epic fail of their old Total War games? Thanks in advance.